What is the next move?

Posted: October 20, 2010 by thetrooth in Uncategorized

No update on the new GAGE location.  What is the next move for GAGE?  Will they announce the new location or quietly sell the equipment?  What would be best?

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  1. Karma says:

    Karla Grimes and Carole Dowell opened a company Called GAGE Center LLC as of Friday. Karla also founded and opened “Bump City” as of Friday as well. He is trying to cover his ass……and it’s sad that there are people who will still cover his ass after everything he has done.

    • seriously says:

      Everyone else who has bailed him out over the years has had it come back to bite them in the butt. It will happen to her as well. If people are paying for Al Fong to coach, but he can’t because of legal restrictions then why would they go back. Also, they have been lied to over and over again during this entire process. I don’t understand why anyone would believe anything they are told by him, Karla or anyone else involved at this point. If you go back to him after you see all of the under the table dealings, lies and manipulations then you can’t possibly be trying to teach your children good values for them to grow up with.

    • WTF says:

      https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?3029495
      https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?3029493
      Why isn’t Al. Registering these businesses? Is there anything happening that is not being told?

      • Upset Mommy says:

        First he cant open any of these accounts because if his name is on them, the people who have judgements against him will have those accounts garnished and wiped out to cover past debts. He also owes the State of Missouri for back taxes that he is overdue on.

    • kharma says:

      HAHAHAHAHAHA! THEY ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF HIS $$$ before and look where they are now_ why would this even pan out….maybe if its thier names they will tell him “NO_we dont have the $$$ to do it” and if he isnt making the decisions and they are…. HA then for sure it will not stay running. there is a reason the bills werent paid and last time i read this AL was not the one running the business, HE IS MEARLY A COACH right????? ha< riiiight

    • kharma says:

      Definition of EMBEZZLE- merriam-webster
      : to appropriate (as property entrusted to one’s care) fraudulently to one’s own use

  2. Starting to wonder says:

    I just checked the GAGE Center website and no update about the “Relocation.” I am beginning to wonder…What’s Up Al Fong?!?!?!?!?!

  3. GAGEemployee says:

    WE ARE RELOCATING EVERYONE. WE ARE NOT LYING IN ANY WAY. YOU ALL HAVE NO LIFE AND NEED TO GET OVER WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THIS SITE PISSES ME OFF EVERY TIME I VISIT IT. I AM A LOYAL EMPLOYEE OF GAGE AND ALWAYS WILL BE. WHOEVER YOU ARE NEED TO STOP ACCUSING AND MAKING US SOUND BAD, BECAUSE WE AREN’T. WE ARE GOING TO START NEW COMPANIES AND MOVE ON. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS BAD KARMA ON YOURSELF.
    WHAT WE ARE SHOWING IS INTEGRITY. WE ARE OVERCOMING AN OBSTACLE THAT SOME BUSINESSES COULDN’T. WE ARE GROWING STRONGER BY THE MINUTE AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS JUST MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK STUPID. WHEN WE HAVE NEW COMPANIES AND NEW LOCATIONS I HOPE I GET TO SEE ALL OF YOU TO LAUGH IN YOUR FACE.

    • questioner says:

      @GAGEemployee – Your company essentially packs up and leaves in the middle of the night, doesn’t tell anyone where you’re “relocating” to, and comes on this blog to chastise customers who rightfully feel cheated and slighted…and THAT is showing integrity?? Just two days ago you abandon a long-standing fixture in a community that has supported you throughout the years, and we’re all just supposed to get over it?? Well, whatever helps you sleep through the night…

    • Questioning 2 says:

      Wow. Somewhat defensive. Somewhere might ask Of what

      • GAGEemployee says:

        I’m defensive because of this blog. It’s an immature way to start rumors without showing your face for it. I’ve been called brainwashed and I’ve seen Al been called and “asian piece of shit”. That’s why I’m defensive. You all are making me tear my hair out trying to defend the company. It’s all stupid at the same time that a silly blog would do this to me.

    • Upset Mommy says:

      And then when the bank comes back and takes all the equipment from your ‘new locations” because its covered under a UCC that US Bank holds we will laugh at you for being so stupid

      • taxidriver says:

        I’m a little concerned about how the legal part of this is going to turn out. Though I’d like to see teams and coaches move and stay intact, I can’t help wondering if the hammer will drop in mid-season when a move to another team would be impossible. I’m making a list a questions to ask Al when I see him. If you had the opportunity, what would your questions for Al be ? I think I have it a pretty good list but would like some imput from others. Also, if there really are GAGE employees paying attention, I know we’ve already lost more than a few, time is running out and all this needs to be completly resolved NOW. Promises of opening in a week or two won’t work. Somebody better be setting up that equipment in a building today!

      • Seriously says:

        What happens if Karla opens those accounts, since his name isn’t on them? We all know that he is behind them. Can they still come in and stop him?

    • gage says:

      who are you? haha cause i’m kinda loving you right now

    • gage mom says:

      @GAGEemployee-If this site pisses you off, stop coming to it. It’s that simple. And if you really are a GAGE employee, please let us know what is happening.

      For your sake, you shouldn’t come to this site and post. The last sentence of your post doesn’t sit well with me and you alone could be the source of running off other parents from the only gym we’ve known.

      • GAGEemployee says:

        i’m sorry to sound mean. I mean that to the people who have called me names because they think i am “brainwashed”. This site does tick me off, and it shouldn’t have ever been made. I was heated when i posted that comment, and i’m sorry to have disturbed you. But, I have been working really hard to keep everyone informed, so this is the last i know….
        We have a new location. Its located on west 40 highway by direct tv and pointe of hope church.
        3713 W 40 Highway
        Blue Springs, MO

    • kharma says:

      if it pisses you off and you find it untrue then why backlash and continue to comment??? good luck in YOUR future endeavors too

  4. gage says:

    I do agree that the way Gage left was sudden, and unheard of but the reasons for leaving were in the better interests of the Gage atheltes. Though moving is a hassel, and some practices have been missed Gage has promised it’s athletes they will make up for lost practice. Some of Gage’s groups have still been having practices just in an alternative space, such as the cheerleaders. I think this is a good test for the athleltes and gives them more of a chance to prevail and competitions and meets. This is the time for Gage to show everyone that it’s not the gym that defines a gymnast or cheerleader, but the amount of effort, and love.

  5. This regards the Gage employees who have time to sit and argue on this blog. Where I work this is not allowed and I have work to keep me busy. The Gage Employees responses have been during the hours of business. If they are hard at work getting a new location how do you have time to monitor this web site and post thier one-sided view? Just wondering? Maybe more time spent working and less time perusing the internet would help prevent this type of occurrence in the future.

    • GAGEemployee says:

      Ok, I assure you that I am in college full time and I work at GAGE around 30 hours a week. I am a hardworking individual and pride myself on it. I just want to let you know that my job right now is to be on our facebooks, and email to keep everyone informed. And, thats great that your job is keeping you busy. But this is part of my job right now. Not only part of my job, but just my own opinions. GAGE is open all the time. And, i am posting from my home computer…it doesn’t really matter what our hours are…we aren’t just 9-5 everyday. So, even if this was posted during business hours, I posted because I care and Im defending what should be defended and what shouldn’t even be started. I’m ending rumors.

    • Rainydydayfun says:

      GAGE employees aren’t there all day every day. Some of the coaches and office employees work in the evenings, AFTER normal business hours. Not to mention the fact that Gage is not open for business right now, so GAGEemployee being on during business hours discredits them in no way.

  6. TBG says:

    Dear Gage,

    Since you would have first hand knowledge, maybe you could dispell the rumor that the creditors have picked up their equipment.

    • Upset Mommy says:

      @ TBG since al pack up all the equipment into a u-haul and has stashed it away it is going to take the bank sometime to locate it, because I’m pretty sure Al is not willing going to hand it over. So even if he does reopen with the equipment that was in the Gage building on Jefferson it is going to be matter of days after he reopens at the new location that the bank comes in and repos the equipment to pay down on the loan. So parents and employees that are going to stick by his side are going to have a very rude awaking coming when this happens to them again

  7. shouldn't even post says:

    Have any of you considered that no one has made any statements on either side if Jake has or has not defalted on a payment? Just because Al had payment issues, that doesn’t mean Jake does. IF, Jake continues to make the payments, this is all about a broken contract and the bank has nothing to do with it. Jake owns lots of things…he can continue to make the payments, place another renter in the building and still go after Al for his broken contract (business/building) The bank will only take possession if Jake defaults. The bank isn’t going to show up on monday and take equipment…this is going to be bound in legal matters for years with appeal after appeal. Honestly?…crimes with tons of evidence and a confession takes more than a year to settle. The bank will have to come after Jake and Jake will have to come after Al… Jake is 51% owner in this …it is also his responsibility to repay monies lost to customers. He should have looked very closely to Al’s financial record and should not have agreed to this contract. A resonable business person would have seen in 2007 this was destined for failure on both sides. If GAGE couldn’t make it work at the beginning, how would charging inflated prices and an extreme clauses contract help a business survive? Jake and Al both made grievous errors. I’m not taking a side between Al and Jake because that’s not what matters…it’s the kids left hanging in the middle matter. Gage families…pick yourself up, dust yourselves off and move forward. Some with him and some without. Either way, own your choice and move on. Not sure why you would look on a blog for answers when no one will even sign their name? The truth will prevail in time.

    • TBG says:

      Then let me rephrase the question. Maybe it wasn’t a creditor who picked up the equipment that Al tried to sneak off with in the middle of the night. Maybe it was Jake who picked it up, maybe a bank, maybe some other creditor, maybe just a garden variety theif. I just wondered if Al and the other former coaches are still in pssession of equipment that they probably don’t have clear title to, since no one seems to be disputing that Jake is the 51% owner of the equipment. Can anyone confirm whether or not they still have equipment because the rumor is that they don’t have it any longer?

  8. Who's at fault says:

    Also if Jake is 51% owner of the gym and it’s equipment would it not reason that the athletes are 51% his too.

    • Gym Rats Mom says:

      Whose at fault – my gymnasts doesn’t belong to Al or Jake. Our child is on loan to my husband and me from God.

    • Rainydydayfun says:

      Jake is 51% owner of the building, not the equipment, necessarily. That’s what the dispute is with Al taking it. Al says it’s Al’s, Jake says it’s Jake’s. Only the courts will be able to sort that out, so I say let that matter go.

  9. OrderInTheCourt says:

    Preliminary injunction hearing is set for Friday at 10:30 a.m.

    1016-CV31935
    EAGLE WOODS LLC ET AL V ALVIN L FONG

    Why not let the courts decide. This is a lot bigger mess than any of you loyal employees/parents/coaches even know. You have nothing to worry about if your child is not on the girls team. The GAGE Center facebook page stated that their second building fell through and they are now in the process of locating another one?? Ok so now tell me how they are going to manage to find a new warehouse that is capable of housing elite gymnasts or team for that matter by Nov. 1rst??

    Maria Ferro: Where is the Lees Summit location?
    Monday at 9:07am · Comment ·LikeUnlike · View Feedback (1)Hide Feedback (1) · See Wall-to-Wall

    Gage Gym: The Lee’s Summit location unfortunately fell through. We are still looking for a second location. We will update when we have a definite spot
    Monday at 11:34am · LikeUnlike

  10. question says:

    The post prior to yours said the “Team”‘s location in Lee’s Summit fell through. So, I was inquiring if the “Team” was going to join the cheer, rec,preschool.bump city building? Or was the “Team” location on 40 hwy a different building?

  11. Anonymous says:

    Looks like the Gage girls team is slowly settling into different gyms around the area and will likely be no more. I assume there are some hangers on hoping that AL will eventually put something together. It’s anyone’s guess as to whether the girls who are now going to other gyms will go back to him. Some will, some probably won’t.

    I have no idea what happened to the boys team. There aren’t as many options for them. I hope they all find something.

    Dragons Gym seems to be a rec/cheer gym reconstituted from the coaches and students from Gage. Although they initially held themselves out as Gage, they are in fact a different entity. I quess it’s up to the courts to decide whether they went about it in a legal manner or not. Both sides should be sufficiently lawyered up by this point and I wouldn’t expect that the facts will be kept closely guarded from the public until presented in court.

    • Wow says:

      Really?!! I was told that the girls team was practicing at Edge last week and then moved to the 40 hwy gym. I guess this is not true? I was hoping the team would get settled in blue Springs and this would all go away….other than the court stuff with Al. As far as the Elites go, who else in Missouri/Kansas is qualified to coach them? I was told the coaches had to be certified to be Elite coaches? I don’t know!

      • Elite info says:

        To coach Elite you don’t need any special certification. However you need top notch coaches. KGDC in Kansas is coaching elite now. They were at Championships. Eagles has had Elites in the past too.

    • Anonymous says:

      Wow, I am trying to figure out where you get your information. The whole GAGE team is still together and are working out at Dave’s gymnastics in Lees Summit. I do not know of any team girls that have moved on to another gym. It would be great if you would post something that was actually truthful. Where are you guys getting your stories?

      • Wow says:

        I got my information from the Anonymous post just prior to mine and was responding to the very first line of the post.

      • truth says:

        None of the team girls have left. The team girls have stayed, the elites have stayed. No one plans on moving anywhere

  12. Anonymous says:

    Sorry “wow” , I was responding to the person above you as well.

  13. Who's at fault says:

    I heard that they are only permitted a 2 month lease at Dave’s

    • Reality says:

      So the reality is that the Grand Opening of Dragon Gymnastics does not include the Dragon Girls team? They have a 2 month lease at Dave’s and then what?

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